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Author: Rob Malpass via Hampshire
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From: Hampshire [mailto:hampshire-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of James Courtier-Dutton via Hampshire
Sent: 25 January 2019 23:54
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Subject: Re: [Hampshire] VGA to HDMI in low res modes (Clever Video box required)





>Another option, is to find an old graphics card that does DVI, and install it in the old PCs.




Said machines all have onboard graphics so not an option.



>Another option, is to buy a better display, that supports VGA and HDMI inputs.




I have one but these are becoming increasingly hard to find – and often (in my experience) while they have a VGA input, they cannot handle the BIOS text modes as they’re so low-res.



>Another option, is to stop using the old PCs entirely, and get newer ones.


>You don't explain why you need the old PCs.




Cost. This is part of an Advanced PhD project. To upgrade the entire cluster to newer machines (even if they weren’t completely new) would still be funds than I can spare.















On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 at 11:56, Rob Malpass via Hampshire <hampshire@???> wrote:

Hi all



Does anyone know of a clever video “upscaler” which converts very low res (i.e. text) VGA to HDMI. I have a lot of still working old kit which is outputting VGA. The trouble is the BIOS screen (these are nigh on 10 years old machines) is not UEFI, it’s still text mode VGA. I have tried various HDMI solutions (including going VGA to SCART and SCART to HDMI – which works fine on a BBC Micro btw!) but none of my HDMI monitors can handle this. They can handle things fine when these old machines get into a graphics mode – but on a text mode like the BIOS (or running Ubuntu server) – no dice.



Of course, given it’s old hardware, it’s quite often the BIOS that needs checking for CMOS battery, RAM failure etc.



At present, I have a nasty hack where I send the output of a given old machine to a mechanical KVM which switches the video output between a 14” monitor that can handle these text modes and a monitor with VGA to HDMI conversion (which handles anything over 640x480 fine but can’t handle lo-res text modes). So when it boots to lo-res mode, I use the 14” monitor and the moment it switches to a graphics mode – I flick the KVM over to a (VGA converted to HDMI) modern monitor.



Any ideas anyone? FWIW the upscaler I’ve tried is [1]



Cheers

Rob



[1] https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SCART-HDMI-to-HDMI-720P-1080P-HD-Video-Converter-Adapter-UK-Plug-For-DVD-STB/183573964461?_trkparms=aid%3D555017%26algo%3DPL.CASSINI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20170912102056%26meid%3D22a8ffe8c8e94938b3e80082bdf22309%26pid%3D100753%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26%26itm%3D183573964461 <https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SCART-HDMI-to-HDMI-720P-1080P-HD-Video-Converter-Adapter-UK-Plug-For-DVD-STB/183573964461?_trkparms=aid%3D555017%26algo%3DPL.CASSINI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20170912102056%26meid%3D22a8ffe8c8e94938b3e80082bdf22309%26pid%3D100753%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26%26itm%3D183573964461&_trksid=p2045573.c100753.m4841> &_trksid=p2045573.c100753.m4841

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